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Small Account Challenge (MES and later ES)

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mantaskon
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This is something that I have always wanted to attempt myself. A small account challenge similar to those I've seen run by various trading gurus over the years...

I'll be starting today with a roughly $500 account (edited: thought it was $440 initially, then it updated in the app in a bit, weird).

The plan initially is to start with 3-5 MES lots and once I build up > $1500 attempt a switch to one ES lot. Need to be surgical with my entries and really work on that discipline and patience (a big part of why I am doing this is to build up discipline above my current levels).

Going to be posting my daily trades and progress report here.

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How many ticks will you risk per trade or will it depend on what the market gives you?

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mantaskon
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I normally have a set SL of 3 pts per 1 ES lot, but with MES it's a bit different (haven't traded MES, ever) so might take me a bit of time to adjust.

My plan is to get to the point where I can trade a single ES lot asap. Otherwise it's going to be tricky I think... easy to blow up a $440 account.

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mantaskon
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Oh forgot to mention my setups.

So normally I trade just three setups.

1. False breakdowns/breakouts. In this current bullish market it would be false breakdowns for the most part. This is where the price "breaks down" past some support level, makes a low, then maybe another lower low (5 or 15 mins) and then reclaims either the level that it lost previously or sometimes VWAP (depending on breakdown setup).

2. VWAP bounce. Normally just the first bounce when price runs up/down, then revisits VWAP and continues in the direction it was going beforehand. In this market it's mostly VWAP bounces for me. Again usually just the very first bounce as subsequent bounces often fail.

3. Bull/bear flags - only during regular trading hours. These require decent momentum.

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 Miesto 
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I normally have a set SL of 3 pts per 1 ES lot, but with MES it's a bit different (haven't traded MES, ever) so might take me a bit of time to adjust.

My plan is to get to the point where I can trade a single ES lot asap. Otherwise it's going to be tricky I think... easy to blow up a $440 account.

Why not 3 pts SL on the MES? ES and MES are almost 100% correlated. What's the difference besides tick value?

Think it's a good exercise, good luck!

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mantaskon
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Yeah I agree. My problem is psychology - I'm used to dealing with ES price fluctuations and seeing the much smaller numbers when trading MES is messing (hah) with me a bit.

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 tr8er 
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I wish you all the best, slow down and start with 1 or 2 contracts, 3-5 is too much (in my opinion)

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mantaskon
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Thanks! Yeah you might be correct the math doesn't make sense unless I get lucky in the first couple of days.

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mantaskon
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Day over... was quite painful catching near perfect trades and profiting just $30-$50 each because I traded 1-2 MES lots instead of ES. So that's an adjustment for sure. Wow.

Started at around $500, end just over $700. Hopefully I can continue at this pace. I can clearly see that small gains add up, but it's a mental battle for me every trade.


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Day over... was quite painful catching near prefect trades and profiting just $30-$50 each because I traded 1-2 MES lots instead of ES. So that's an adjustment for sure. Wow.

Started at around $500, end just over $700. Hopefully I can continue at this pace. I can clearly see that small gains add up, but it's a mental battle for me every trade.


Yes, it's a mental battle but this is looking very promising for sure.

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