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rubbles88
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Hi,

I'm just curious about market data. The fees are different depending on status. Non-professional status is charged $10 while professional status is charged more than $100. I'm wondering if professional status receives better market data feed from another server or both status gets the same market data feed but the professional status is just charged higher fees.

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It is supposed to be the same data.


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I have discussed this topic with Kinetick and Interactive Brokers and confirmed data feed supplied is 100% the same. Just an admin difference required by regulators for pro traders handling others' funds.

If working for yourself (from home or office), trading strictly for your own income, you can still be registered as "Non-professional" even if you have created a company of your own to enjoy tax benefits. But always best to check your local tax office wherever you are, of course.


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I have discussed this topic with Kinetick and Interactive Brokers and confirmed data feed supplied is 100% the same. Just an admin difference required by regulators for pro traders handling others' funds.

If working for yourself (from home or office), trading strictly for your own income, you can still be registered as "Non-professional" even if you have created a company of your own to enjoy tax benefits. But always best to check your local tax office wherever you are, of course.



if you are working from home for yourself through prop company then? Professionals or non-professionals trader?


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if you are working from home for yourself through prop company then? Professionals or non-professionals trader?


If your trading from home and not for other clients. Then you would go with the nonprofessional data feed.


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If you are employing own funds - non professional.
Employing others funds - professional.

Is what i understand. do correct me if i am wrong.


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Not quite, I know people who trade OPM thru friends &family accts and get non pro rates.

You should call ibkr to verify if your single person LLC is non-pro just to be sure. You don't want them changing your sub when your not aware. If your an RIA or CTA, then it's definitely pro.


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If working for yourself (from home or office), trading strictly for your own income, you can still be registered as "Non-professional" even if you have created a company of your own to enjoy tax benefits.

Old thread, but the bolded bit isn't correct. I trade through my small Ltd company via IB, and I've been classed as a professional client, so I have to pay professional data fees. The moment I declared that the account is for a company, that was it. I don't even see the non-pro data options.

It's possible IB changed things around since the time when the comment was made.


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I trade through my small Ltd company via IB, and I've been classed as a professional client. The moment I declared the account is for a company, that was it.

@SirianSTO,

Good correction, and worth spelling out why for anyone else running into this.

Company accounts -- Ltd, LLC, any corporate structure -- get classified as professional automatically. That's not IB being strict, that's NYSE exchange policy. The moment you're trading through an entity rather than as an individual, the exchange treats you as a professional. IB is just following the rules.

Worth clarifying what "professional" actually means here though: it's purely a pricing tier, not a data quality tier. You're getting identical data -- same latency, same tick, same depth of book. You're just paying more for it. Non-professional rates exist specifically for individual retail traders using personal accounts and trading their own money. Corporate structure disqualifies you from that by definition.

The practical upshot: if you ever wind down the Ltd and move to a personal account, you can update your classification with IB and get the non-professional rates. Status follows the account structure, not you personally.

So yes, the original comment in the thread was off on that point. Company account = professional classification, regardless of account size or how you use it.

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