Market Data for Order Flow Plus tools.

March 13th, 2023, 03:26 PM

What market data (Level 1 or 2) is needed for the OrderFlow+ Volume Profile and VWAP indicators? Which of the OrderFlow+ tools require Level 2 market depth data?

Thanks.

March 18th, 2023, 11:02 AM

Hi @dakine

Using NinjaTrader Order Flow tools:

If you are just looking at market orders that have already been executed, then level 1 is only required (eg Volumetric Bars, Cumulative Delta, VWAP, Volume Profile, Trade Detector ).
If you are looking at any tool that monitors stacking and pulling of limit orders, then level 2 is required (eg Market Depth Map).

Personally, if you are interested in Order Flow in real time, opt for Level 2 and you can see both market orders and limit orders.
People are just realizing the value of analyzing stacking an pulling away from just using the DOM, and more development of tools need to be done for level 2 for real time trading.

Robotman

March 18th, 2023, 02:04 PM

Thanks @Robotman for the reply. Do you have any resources you like for Market Depth trading using the analysis of stacking and pulling orders. Thanks.

March 18th, 2023, 02:36 PM

dakine

Thanks @Robotman for the reply. Do you have any resources you like for Market Depth trading using the analysis of stacking and pulling orders. Thanks.

I use these as a full time trader. Y.M.M.V.
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Good Luck,
Robotman

March 25th, 2023, 04:18 PM

dakine

Thanks @Robotman for the reply. Do you have any resources you like for Market Depth trading using the analysis of stacking and pulling orders. Thanks.

Bookmap (which has a NinjaTrader addon) will also show you visually the stacking and pulling of orders. Level 2 data required.

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Market Data for Order Flow Plus tools.