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 ziggy123 
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Whenever buying "lifetime", the question to always ask is whose lifetime. Sounds like you bought it for NinjaTrader 7, because I don't believe NinjaTrader 8 (which is a different platform) was around in 2014, so you should have lifetime access to the product for NinjaTrader 7.

Thanks - that is not the case as you can see from the attached image - I was using the product in 2020

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Whenever buying "lifetime", the question to always ask is whose lifetime.

@planetkill,

Nailed it. "Lifetime" in the NinjaTrader third-party ecosystem almost always means the product version's lifetime, not yours. NT7 to NT8 was basically a full rewrite -- different codebase, different API -- so vendors had a convenient out. And most of them took it.

The real issue isn't even the semantics of "lifetime." It's that the NinjaTrader indicator ecosystem has zero standardization around licensing terms. Machine-ID locks, online activation servers, limited installs per key -- every vendor rolls their own, and when something breaks (hardware swap, OS reinstall, platform migration), you're at their mercy for reactivation.

For anyone still evaluating Market Profile tools, the due diligence checklist is short but non-negotiable:
  • Get upgrade scope in writing -- does "lifetime" cover major platform transitions? If the vendor won't clarify, that's your answer.
  • Confirm activation portability -- how many machines, what happens on hardware change, is there an offline fallback?
  • Test support responsiveness before buying -- send a pre-sale question and time the response. That's your preview of post-sale support.
  • Pay with a credit card -- chargeback protection is real apply if a vendor ghosts you.

Worth noting that the scene has shifted since 2014. NinjaTrader's own Order Flow+ now includes Volume Profile natively. Sierra Chart and Quantower both have solid native TPO/Market Profile without third-party dependency. If you're running POC and value area as core components of your method -- which across ES, CL, and the rest of your lineup, I'd assume you are -- having that baked into the platform removes the entire vendor risk layer.

Archive your installers and license keys regardless. Vendors disappear, domains lapse, activation servers go offline. A local backup of a working build is insurance that costs nothing.

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