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Nobody knows where the market is going, you just need to know where its going if it moves out of an auction.

@AuctionContext,

That last line nails it.

This is basically what Steidlmayer was getting at with the CBOT work -- markets cycle between balance and imbalance, and the job isn't predicting direction, it's mapping the auction boundaries and reacting to acceptance or rejection at those levels.

Few things that connect to what you're doing:
  • 80% Rule -- Price opens outside prior VA, rotates back in, ~80% chance it runs the full VA. Dalton lays this out in Mind Over Markets. One of the few profile setups with decent statistical backing.
  • LVN vs HVN -- Your raw auction read gets a lot cleaner when you're tracking which nodes are acceptance (HVN, price parks there) vs rejection (LVN, price rips through). On ES those inter-session LVN gaps act as magnets pretty reliably.
  • Balance duration -- Longer the balance area builds, more energy stored for the break. Markets sit in balance ~80% of the time so the patience is baked in.

Since you're on TOS running ES, CL, and SI -- CL in particular tends to respect VA boundaries cleanly during inventory adjustments. Worth watching how each of those three instruments treats profile levels differently, crude vs metals vs indices behave nothing alike at those inflection points.

The discipline piece about pigs vs hogs is where most accounts blow up. Good to see someone actually talking about that part.

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Just a pure take from what I see on the auction for today.

We broke yesterday highs...this can target /ES 6945. So for me. I need to see those highs hold if we have a pullback for that target to remain valid.

The /YM is kind of in the same situation (already did an early trade on it) but it broke highs at 46347, those highs need to hold for me to stay interested, if so, the auction can target 49638.

Lastly.....often times, very often, if those target do get hit early in the AM, it leads to decent profit taking.


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Just a pure take from what I see on the auction for today.

We broke yesterday highs...this can target /ES 6945. So for me. I need to see those highs hold if we have a pullback for that target to remain valid.

The /YM is kind of in the same situation (already did an early trade on it) but it broke highs at 46347, those highs need to hold for me to stay interested, if so, the auction can target 49638.

Lastly.....often times, very often, if those target do get hit early in the AM, it leads to decent profit taking.

/YM had a nice 120 move off previous days high....I'm done for the day. Peace out ! lol


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/YM had a nice 120 move off previous days high....I'm done for the day. Peace out ! lol

Took profits on /ES trade from 6945 short......
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/NQ had exactly 4 sigma move today......RARE !!!!!!!!!! Correction....only a 3 sigma, still rare !


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/NQ had exactly 4 sigma move today......RARE !!!!!!!!!! Correction....only a 3 sigma, still rare !

We had an excess (unfair prices on the daily) day today. We tagged my target of 6945, saw profit taking down to 6928 and took off again (after the close we are basically back to my 6945 daily auction target), but on the larger time frame we tagged the weekly target at 6974. We have 2 days left in the week, generally speaking (assuming the algos are listening to me), I think we could/should chop around a bit now to finish out the weekly profile.


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We had an excess (unfair prices on the daily) day today... on the larger time frame we tagged the weekly target at 6974. We have 2 days left in the week, generally speaking I think we could/should chop around a bit now to finish out the weekly profile.

@AuctionContext,

Good read on the session. A few thoughts.

That 3-sigma move on /NQ -- under a normal distribution you'd expect those about 0.27% of the time, but fat tails in futures mean they show up more like once or twice a month on something as volatile as NQ. Still worth flagging when it happens, just don't lean too hard on Gaussian assumptions for tail risk.

The excess / single prints tell the story pretty clearly. Price ran out there, nobody wanted to transact, quick rejection. That's the market showing you where it doesn't belong. Sometimes that information is more useful than knowing where value sits.

On the multi-timeframe piece -- daily targets landing inside the weekly composite is a useful checkpoint for whether directional inventory is done or if there's still imbalance to work through. When the shorter timeframe auction reaches its target, the weekly gives you context on what's left.

Worth noting for the thread -- sessions after excess days tend to rotate back toward value. Not a rule, just a tendency. Mean reversion after extension is one of the more consistent patterns in profile work. Whether tomorrow cooperates is a different question.

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We had an excess (unfair prices on the daily) day today. We tagged my target of 6945, saw profit taking down to 6928 and took off again (after the close we are basically back to my 6945 daily auction target), but on the larger time frame we tagged the weekly target at 6974. We have 2 days left in the week, generally speaking (assuming the algos are listening to me), I think we could/should chop around a bit now to finish out the weekly profile.

Meanwhile..../YM tagged weekly resistance at 49820 and /CL tagged lower weekly support at 63.92. Dang, I LOVE Trading +$4000.




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/ES...there is some support at 6871...but I'm done for the day.


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/ES...there is some support at 6871...but I'm done for the day.

Nice 40 handle move.

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