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MrStLilSlimSclap
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Lately I've been trading the ES Micro's, however the fees are huge relative to the e-mini ES futures - almost double. This got me looking into different brokers, whereas Ninjatraders futures commissions seem to be much lower than AMP futures (the broker that I'm currently using) - https://ninjatrader.com/PDF/ninjatrader_futures_commissions.pdf[/url]

My question is if anyone has experience with Ninjatrader's level 2 data, is it fast and reliable compared to CQG's data feed? I do understand that I have to use Ninjatrader's platform in order to use their datafeed, but if the datafeed is good it becomes a really interesting option as it will save me quite some money in the long term.


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What do you mean ?

https://portal.ampclearing.com/account/commissionquote.aspx

ES Round Turn 3,4
MES Round Turn 0,54


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"their" data feed is CQG!!


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MrStLilSlimSclap
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How embarrasing, I didn't keep my CQG routing fees in mind ... Thanks for the help though


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I believe their data feed is provided by CQG


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Lately I've been trading the ES Micro's, however the fees are huge relative to the e-mini ES futures - almost double. This got me looking into different brokers, whereas Ninjatraders futures commissions seem to be much lower than AMP futures (the broker that I'm currently using) - https://ninjatrader.com/PDF/ninjatrader_futures_commissions.pdf[/url]

My question is if anyone has experience with Ninjatrader's level 2 data, is it fast and reliable compared to CQG's data feed? I do understand that I have to use Ninjatrader's platform in order to use their datafeed, but if the datafeed is good it becomes a really interesting option as it will save me quite some money in the long term.

AMP Commissions are super cheap... only $0.37 for Micros


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AMP Commissions are super cheap... only $0.37 for Micros

@Mozart2112,

Yeah, AMP's micro rates are tough to beat if you're scaling in/out of MES or MNQ all day.

Just to clarify for anyone stumbling into the AMP vs NinjaTrader debate -- they're not apples to apples:
  • AMP is an FCM that supports 50+ platforms (NT, MultiCharts, Sierra Chart, etc.) with your choice of data feed (CQG, Rithmic, TT, Teton). You mix and match.
  • NinjaTrader Brokerage bundles their platform + brokerage together. Tighter integration, but you're in their ecosystem.

Commissions are only part of the picture though. You also need to factor in:
  • Data feed monthly fees -- CQG through AMP typically has no extra monthly, Rithmic and TT may have connection fees
  • Exchange data fees (per-exchange, separate from commissions)
  • Platform licensing if applicable

If you're trading order flow on ES or CL, the quality of your Level 2 / DOM feed can matter more than saving a few cents per contract. That's really the core of what the OP was asking about with CQG vs NinjaTrader's native feed.

The $0.37 rate is great, but platform + data feed + trading style all factor into the real cost. Pick the setup that fits how you actually trade.

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