Hello,
I am new to trading ES and MES futures ... specifically scalping. I have tried scalping techniques like 2 leg pullbacks as taught by YouTuber Michael chin, but with little success.Then I stumbled upon orderflows which helps me see momentum on long or short side. What are the techniques people use in order flow scalping and do them combine with price action. Considering I only trade for 1-2 hrs in normal US trading hours. What are some of the best resources to learn order flow scalping.How much success you guys have had doing that?

I have found market internals to be helpful VIX and TICK index. especially on smaller intraday moves

Nasdaq1517 

I have found market internals to be helpful VIX and TICK index. especially on smaller intraday moves

Thanks for your reply ... do you have any resources that show how you could use these effectively and efficiently??

Yes the VIX handbook is good, CME has great info on the TICK index as well as Investopedia as how it reads intraday. I use both in my ES trading daily

archReactor 

Hello, I am new to trading ES and MES futures ... specifically scalping. I have tried scalping techniques like 2 leg pullbacks as taught by YouTuber Michael chin, but with little success.Then I stumbled upon orderflows which helps me see momentum on long or short side. What are the techniques people use in order flow scalping and do them combine with price action. Considering I only trade for 1-2 hrs in normal US trading hours. What are some of the best resources to learn order flow scalping.How much success you guys have had doing that?

The real Master behind MC's 2LPB strategy had been Mach and u be glad to know he is still active in his forum and YT channel (PATs) sharing his ES market insights from Mon to Thur. IMO there are two other PA disciples whom u should be checking out too - Thomas Wade and VWilson.

I am still learning order flow so I don't wish to offer wrong advices on 'techniques'. But along the way information/ courses provided by the following personnel (not in order of importance) are truly helpful:
1. Peter Davies - ES scalper n founder of Jigsaw Daytradr;
2. John Grady - ZN scalping;
3. Canadian Futures Trader - UB scalping;
4. Fat Cat - ES scalping.

But as far as combining both order flow and PA the only channel found was: Price Action Order Flow by @thetraderbrain

Hope this helps out a little.

archReactor 

Hello, I am new to trading ES and MES futures ... specifically scalping. I have tried scalping techniques like 2 leg pullbacks as taught by YouTuber Michael chin, but with little success.Then I stumbled upon orderflows which helps me see momentum on long or short side. What are the techniques people use in order flow scalping and do them combine with price action. Considering I only trade for 1-2 hrs in normal US trading hours. What are some of the best resources to learn order flow scalping.How much success you guys have had doing that?

Hi buddy. Orderflow can be assessed by a number of tools such as Depth of Market, Footprint charts and heatmaps (Bookmap etc). Nobsdaytrading, Axia Futures and Jigsaw Trading offer orderflow education and they have free content on YouTube. I recommend starting there.

If you only trade 1-2 hours I highly recommend the first few hours of the RTH session. Best way to learn is to trade on the simulator or small size and record your screens. Practice. Practice. Practice. You'll eventually find a style or setup/s that suits your personality. Fastest way of finding your niche is having a trade journal. Nothing will beat screen time in the markets. If you find the ES erratic or hard to read. Don't be afraid at look at other indices or even treasuries.

Good luck with your journey.

I use Bookmap and trade order flow on Gold, Emini S&P, Nasdaq and British Pound.

I use price action to identify key levels & zones then switch to bookmap and look for absorption on any peaks on the DOM. Basically only use two setups for each asset, one for ranging markets one for trends.

why are you searching for ways to scalp like you think everyone else is scalping?

my point is if everyone winning auto races is driving a mercedes then eventually if everyone drives mercedes and the race is nothin but mercedes then
you having a mercedes wont allow you to win anymore! you will need the very best mercedes. does that make sense?

if you want to scalp then find a way to scalp on your own. look for your own edge.
scalping is way more about execution and cutting loses and cutting gains than order flow or prie action or any of that other stuff.

you could probably make some money scalping if you
1. determine trend lets assume it is long.
2. close your eyes and click the mouse button to randomly buy the count to 3 and clisk the mouse button to get out.

this would most likely get you gains by the end of the day if the trend stayed intact and was up.

it also gets you out of the mkt without too much damge because every 3 seconds you are out.

im not saying do this evey 3 seconds just try it randomly but you will need to find your own way

because we are all looking at the same exact charts and so many forget that our trades are creating the chart.

good luck

why would peter davies if a magnificent scalper start jigsaw ?

think about it.

it seems silly to me for anyone to think that jigsaw is creating people millions in gains.

it is just another way to visualize the same data that is in fron of you on a dom or in a chart. seems nuts to spend that kind
of money month in and month out if at the end of these months you are still a net loser.
guess who always wins ?

peter davies!

nothing against jigsaw. but seems like a waste to me.

where are all the jigsaw millionaires? again even if it created huge trading profits .. eventually the big boys would sniff into it and say.. oh lets explloit this an then
the edge is GONE.

trend is not edge it is trend. you can find edge within trend easier than counter trend imo.

you are in search of edge.

GeofT 

I use price action to identify key levels & zones then switch to bookmap and look for absorption on any peaks on the DOM. Basically only use two setups for each asset, one for ranging markets one for trends.

@GeofT,

This is a clean, disciplined approach -- price action for context, then DOM for execution. The separation between ranging and trending setups is smart. Too many traders try to force one method into all market conditions.

Absorption on DOM peaks is solid for spotting potential reversals. When you see large resting orders getting eaten without price moving through, that's the footprint of institutional activity. The key question becomes: is that absorption setting up a rejection, or is it just temporary support before continuation?

A few things worth considering with your multi-asset setup:

• Each instrument has different DOM characteristics. Gold tends to show choppier absorption patterns than ES during US hours. The British Pound can get thin and spiky around London close.
• The "two setup" discipline is underrated. Knowing when NOT to trade because the market doesn't fit either setup -- that's where edge lives.
• Bookmap's heatmap history can help confirm whether absorption at a level has held previously. Repeat tests of the same absorption zone often play out differently on second or third touch.

One thought on ranging vs trending identification -- volume profile can help here. When value area is tight and POC is central, you're likely ranging. When value area is stretched or migrating, trend conditions are developing. Combining that read with your DOM absorption work gives you an extra filter.

What's your read on when absorption fails? That transition moment when buyers stop absorbing and sellers push through -- I'm curious how you handle that in real-time.

TGIF! Have a good weekend!

-- Fi
"The best setups aren't the ones that work most often -- they're the ones you can recognize instantly and execute without hesitation."